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		<title>Comment on What is the definition of a Lie? by Spangles</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/what-is-the-definition-of-a-lie/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Spangles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise at all, NLC is a Labour council and all Labour councils take their example from the government from Tony Blair lying over Iraq to the criminal MPs&#039; fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise at all, NLC is a Labour council and all Labour councils take their example from the government from Tony Blair lying over Iraq to the criminal MPs&#8217; fraud.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Fight is Not Over Yet! by Allan Devlin</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/the-fight-is-not-over-yet/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people of westfield do we have any quantity suveyors opposed to the mandatory wheeled bins in westfield area to give us some advice we would be most gratefull please email or phone me      also newsletter sent to residents about public meeting by nlc unsigned they say it was difficult to hear its seems to me that the only people not to hear where the unelected officials they did not answer peoples fears but contiued their mantra that statistics were correct residents who carried out their own survey with signatures proved that nlcs survey was a total distortion of true facts im sure that survey carried out by msps cathie craigie and jamie hepburn wil prove this to be so so please return their postal surveys also why are nlc refusing to take back bins as requested by myself and many residents questions must be asked or as it seem public opinion has no value to nlc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people of westfield do we have any quantity suveyors opposed to the mandatory wheeled bins in westfield area to give us some advice we would be most gratefull please email or phone me      also newsletter sent to residents about public meeting by nlc unsigned they say it was difficult to hear its seems to me that the only people not to hear where the unelected officials they did not answer peoples fears but contiued their mantra that statistics were correct residents who carried out their own survey with signatures proved that nlcs survey was a total distortion of true facts im sure that survey carried out by msps cathie craigie and jamie hepburn wil prove this to be so so please return their postal surveys also why are nlc refusing to take back bins as requested by myself and many residents questions must be asked or as it seem public opinion has no value to nlc</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public Meeting Follow-up by Allan Devlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello fellow residents of westfield just a quick letter of thanks for the tremendous turnout at the public meeting re wheeled bins surely now their can be doubt that all msps and councillors were misled paul jukes and ken wilsons claim that ninety six percent of residents interviewed accepted wheeled bins must be investigated by the highest authority are the councillors who voted for the mandatory introduction was it just naivety on their part or will an investigation bring out some other reason we will wait and see how any one could believe paul jukes and ken wilsons statistics is it just an error of judgement or are we to accept their decision statistics handed to me at the public meeting as you would expect are the opposite to statistics given to councillors and msps  also every one interviewed has given their signatures either for or against thanks to the residents who collected them they were not members of community council as north lanark officials have said we influence the people as you know we have a mandate from  residents to represent them and not the unelected officials of north lanark who have dominated these proceedings the data collected will be made available to press and msps and councillors and public when are we going to be represented properly by our elected members or does public opinion have no value to north lanark council will update you when and if any more developments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello fellow residents of westfield just a quick letter of thanks for the tremendous turnout at the public meeting re wheeled bins surely now their can be doubt that all msps and councillors were misled paul jukes and ken wilsons claim that ninety six percent of residents interviewed accepted wheeled bins must be investigated by the highest authority are the councillors who voted for the mandatory introduction was it just naivety on their part or will an investigation bring out some other reason we will wait and see how any one could believe paul jukes and ken wilsons statistics is it just an error of judgement or are we to accept their decision statistics handed to me at the public meeting as you would expect are the opposite to statistics given to councillors and msps  also every one interviewed has given their signatures either for or against thanks to the residents who collected them they were not members of community council as north lanark officials have said we influence the people as you know we have a mandate from  residents to represent them and not the unelected officials of north lanark who have dominated these proceedings the data collected will be made available to press and msps and councillors and public when are we going to be represented properly by our elected members or does public opinion have no value to north lanark council will update you when and if any more developments</p>
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		<title>Comment on Just a Little Breeze by Unhappy Westfield</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/just-a-little-breeze/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Unhappy Westfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think strathclyde Fire and rescue would have an issue.  After all their Station Master at the public meeting was either sleeping through the first half of the night or has little to no idea of the real issues that the public were raising on the evening.  To make the comment of &quot;why would you want your bins at your front door&quot; was an unintentional support to the point that we were all making and was met by derision by all attending except the top table guests and &#039;independent&#039; Chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think strathclyde Fire and rescue would have an issue.  After all their Station Master at the public meeting was either sleeping through the first half of the night or has little to no idea of the real issues that the public were raising on the evening.  To make the comment of &#8220;why would you want your bins at your front door&#8221; was an unintentional support to the point that we were all making and was met by derision by all attending except the top table guests and &#8216;independent&#8217; Chair.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public Meeting Follow-up by Leckethill Resitance</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/116/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Leckethill Resitance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all happy with the political spin from two people we as council tax payers employ. However I was delighted to see the huge turn out of concerned Westfielders who care enough about their community to be there and put these two characters on the spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all happy with the political spin from two people we as council tax payers employ. However I was delighted to see the huge turn out of concerned Westfielders who care enough about their community to be there and put these two characters on the spot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public Meeting Follow-up by Unhappy Westfield</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/116/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Unhappy Westfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left a message attached to a previous item (before this one was posted).  I witnessed a bin man walk to the front door of a neighbours house, lift the grey refuse sack from the bin and walk with it to the bin truck, then deposit it in the back.  So much for needing wheeled bins!

In a recent discussion with Jim Brown (Area Manager) I was informed that health and safety was an issue as his bin men had to lift 4,5 or 6 bags at a time.  Surely this is not good working practice or an acceptable approach to lifting loads which we are told hold potentially hazardous items.

To his credit Jim and his colleague refuted the suggestion which was made to me by two of his staff who visited my home that bin bags were being removed as they had been banned by the European Union.  This has been confirmed by two MEP&#039;s to be a nonsense as such refuse sacks are currently being used on the streets of Brussels for kerbside collection.  The point being - if thise who were sent to inform us of the changes and reasons for them can be so misleading with their information to the public, how can the results of a &#039;survey&#039; be trusted.  

I am unaware if I was part of the survey - I was spoken to at my front door (but not told of a survey) and indicated that I didn&#039;t want a bin, but knew that this would not stop one being delivered - does this mean I agreed to take one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left a message attached to a previous item (before this one was posted).  I witnessed a bin man walk to the front door of a neighbours house, lift the grey refuse sack from the bin and walk with it to the bin truck, then deposit it in the back.  So much for needing wheeled bins!</p>
<p>In a recent discussion with Jim Brown (Area Manager) I was informed that health and safety was an issue as his bin men had to lift 4,5 or 6 bags at a time.  Surely this is not good working practice or an acceptable approach to lifting loads which we are told hold potentially hazardous items.</p>
<p>To his credit Jim and his colleague refuted the suggestion which was made to me by two of his staff who visited my home that bin bags were being removed as they had been banned by the European Union.  This has been confirmed by two MEP&#8217;s to be a nonsense as such refuse sacks are currently being used on the streets of Brussels for kerbside collection.  The point being &#8211; if thise who were sent to inform us of the changes and reasons for them can be so misleading with their information to the public, how can the results of a &#8217;survey&#8217; be trusted.  </p>
<p>I am unaware if I was part of the survey &#8211; I was spoken to at my front door (but not told of a survey) and indicated that I didn&#8217;t want a bin, but knew that this would not stop one being delivered &#8211; does this mean I agreed to take one?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public Meeting Follow-up by Hugh O'Donnell MSP</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/116/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh O'Donnell MSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to say I have a letter from the council in reply to my comments.  If anyone wants a copy of the letter could they get in touch with me via the parliament and give me a postal address and I will send it on to you.
Regards
Hugh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to say I have a letter from the council in reply to my comments.  If anyone wants a copy of the letter could they get in touch with me via the parliament and give me a postal address and I will send it on to you.<br />
Regards<br />
Hugh</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Fight is Not Over Yet! by Unhappy Westfield</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/the-fight-is-not-over-yet/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Unhappy Westfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following yesterdays public meeting - with its pre-determined outcome and some negative body language from certain officials.  I observed the bin men this morning.  We were told that lifting bin bags is a health and safety issue and that the wheelie bins are the answer to this.  This morning I witnessed the collection of grey sacks (it seems in advance of the blue bins) and one of my neighbours has a grey wheelie bin. was this wheeled to the bin truck?  No.  the lid was opened at the front door of the house and the grey sack removed and carried by the bin man to the truck.  Surely with proper protective equipment, if the bin men are lifting &quot;residual Waste&quot; sacks from the very bins that have already been provided, surely blue bags (as requested by those attending the meeting last night) should be provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following yesterdays public meeting &#8211; with its pre-determined outcome and some negative body language from certain officials.  I observed the bin men this morning.  We were told that lifting bin bags is a health and safety issue and that the wheelie bins are the answer to this.  This morning I witnessed the collection of grey sacks (it seems in advance of the blue bins) and one of my neighbours has a grey wheelie bin. was this wheeled to the bin truck?  No.  the lid was opened at the front door of the house and the grey sack removed and carried by the bin man to the truck.  Surely with proper protective equipment, if the bin men are lifting &#8220;residual Waste&#8221; sacks from the very bins that have already been provided, surely blue bags (as requested by those attending the meeting last night) should be provided.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wheelie Bins &#8211; AGAIN by J MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://westfield.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/wheelie-bins-again-2/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>J MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi there

i was delivered my blue bin yesterday - the guy who delivered it said he had chapped my door twice and spoken to someone (he could not say who in my household who he spoke to, and put a DVD through the door - all of this untrue as the time he said he chapped the door we were out at work but did refer to one of my neighbours in a completely un-politically correct manner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)  - he then advised that my bins (getting another bin next week apparently )can be kept on the step at my front door - my step isnt big enough for one bin never mind 2 - he also informed me that anyone who doesnt &quot;conform to the project&quot; !!!!! will be fined by the council !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the bins were also video&#039;d being delivered - as the guy was also carrying a video recorder and anyone who loses their bin will have to pay £60 to have it replaced

now we are not totally against having the bins or recyling (we take bags and boxes of re-cycled goods to the re-cycling place on a regular basis and we rarely put out more than one black bag of household rubbish a week) but i am against having rubbish bins at my front door blocking the entrance and being a complete eyesore as well as smelling disgusting in the summer as the front of our house is south facing , i am worried about the amount of bins which are going to have to sit on the road in an already narrow cul de sac with not enough space for residents cars never mind approx 35 bins every tuesday - the nice council man also advised that any damage to cars by the bins &quot;is not their problem&quot;  - what we need is for the council to look at the money they are spending on providing these bins - and then to see how much extra it would cost to provide access to the rear of the terraced houses to allow residents to keep their bins safely at the back of their houses or some acceptable area (suggestions welcome)

any one agree or disagree with us ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi there</p>
<p>i was delivered my blue bin yesterday &#8211; the guy who delivered it said he had chapped my door twice and spoken to someone (he could not say who in my household who he spoke to, and put a DVD through the door &#8211; all of this untrue as the time he said he chapped the door we were out at work but did refer to one of my neighbours in a completely un-politically correct manner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)  &#8211; he then advised that my bins (getting another bin next week apparently )can be kept on the step at my front door &#8211; my step isnt big enough for one bin never mind 2 &#8211; he also informed me that anyone who doesnt &#8220;conform to the project&#8221; !!!!! will be fined by the council !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
the bins were also video&#8217;d being delivered &#8211; as the guy was also carrying a video recorder and anyone who loses their bin will have to pay £60 to have it replaced</p>
<p>now we are not totally against having the bins or recyling (we take bags and boxes of re-cycled goods to the re-cycling place on a regular basis and we rarely put out more than one black bag of household rubbish a week) but i am against having rubbish bins at my front door blocking the entrance and being a complete eyesore as well as smelling disgusting in the summer as the front of our house is south facing , i am worried about the amount of bins which are going to have to sit on the road in an already narrow cul de sac with not enough space for residents cars never mind approx 35 bins every tuesday &#8211; the nice council man also advised that any damage to cars by the bins &#8220;is not their problem&#8221;  &#8211; what we need is for the council to look at the money they are spending on providing these bins &#8211; and then to see how much extra it would cost to provide access to the rear of the terraced houses to allow residents to keep their bins safely at the back of their houses or some acceptable area (suggestions welcome)</p>
<p>any one agree or disagree with us ??</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wheelie Bins &#8211; AGAIN by Unhappy Westfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unhappy Westfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long standing Westfield resident and NLC employee, I am disappointed in the image that one Council Service can place upon the whole of the Council.

NLC provides many services to a high standard.  From child care to the elderly, sport and leisure to housing and education there may be faults and there may be issues, but in the main the services provided are genuinely provided by people who care about their jobs and the effects that they have on the community.  Even our bin men and their management teams aim to provide a service.  I have sympathy for those members of staff who have been asked to defend this initiative, but cannot hide my disappointment in how this has been implemented.  This approach is viewed (understandably) by the public as being &#039;the Council&#039; when in fact it is one Service of the Council.

We are told that a survey took place.  when was this?  Was this on Saturday when we were visited by staff telling us that the bins were coming or earlier in the week when a leaflet was left through the door.  At no time was I told a survey was being conducted.  If this was the survey, where was the standard questionnaire to ensure we were all asked the same question?  Noone was taking notes -so were the results effectively hearsay?  How can this be presented as being &quot;absolute certainty&quot; because the &#039;Waste Education Officers&#039; have spoken to residents.  if the people who visited my door were supposed to educate me then I am bemused.

I was told that the EU had banned refuse sacks.  This has now been indicated that this is something that should not have been said.

The initial visitor to my door agreed that the area was not suitable for the bins and that the scheme will fail.  Unfortunately it only fails where we live.  We are the ones that must  
live with this.

the second visitor to my home told me that &quot;everyone else has the bins and Westfield is no different&quot;.  This is not education, but arrogance.

Our elected members seem to be at sixes and sevens.  Some say they know nothing of this.  Some are advising we use the official complaints procedure and some are advising that we contact the ombudsman.  Is it any wonder that people are confused?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long standing Westfield resident and NLC employee, I am disappointed in the image that one Council Service can place upon the whole of the Council.</p>
<p>NLC provides many services to a high standard.  From child care to the elderly, sport and leisure to housing and education there may be faults and there may be issues, but in the main the services provided are genuinely provided by people who care about their jobs and the effects that they have on the community.  Even our bin men and their management teams aim to provide a service.  I have sympathy for those members of staff who have been asked to defend this initiative, but cannot hide my disappointment in how this has been implemented.  This approach is viewed (understandably) by the public as being &#8216;the Council&#8217; when in fact it is one Service of the Council.</p>
<p>We are told that a survey took place.  when was this?  Was this on Saturday when we were visited by staff telling us that the bins were coming or earlier in the week when a leaflet was left through the door.  At no time was I told a survey was being conducted.  If this was the survey, where was the standard questionnaire to ensure we were all asked the same question?  Noone was taking notes -so were the results effectively hearsay?  How can this be presented as being &#8220;absolute certainty&#8221; because the &#8216;Waste Education Officers&#8217; have spoken to residents.  if the people who visited my door were supposed to educate me then I am bemused.</p>
<p>I was told that the EU had banned refuse sacks.  This has now been indicated that this is something that should not have been said.</p>
<p>The initial visitor to my door agreed that the area was not suitable for the bins and that the scheme will fail.  Unfortunately it only fails where we live.  We are the ones that must<br />
live with this.</p>
<p>the second visitor to my home told me that &#8220;everyone else has the bins and Westfield is no different&#8221;.  This is not education, but arrogance.</p>
<p>Our elected members seem to be at sixes and sevens.  Some say they know nothing of this.  Some are advising we use the official complaints procedure and some are advising that we contact the ombudsman.  Is it any wonder that people are confused?</p>
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